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This post is one of a series describing the design of a prospective RPG called the Wall. You can find more posts here.

This is a return to test number three. The rumours of Elite food hording has proved false, so the PCs decided it was time to track down the Preacher who spouted these lies. Aelfgifu, the PC spy within the Occupiers, is eminently suited to that.

Our breakdown again is:
Episode: Food riots have begun in the Fifth Quarter, one of the middle class sections near the river. Order is threatened and the Company’s influence among the Elites is at stake.

Scene Goal: Find the Preacher

In test number three, the players decided that Aelfgifu was going to use her contacts among the Dispossessed’s underworld to get information on this Preacher, but then because there was no way to wager Sympathy, realized it was pretty much impossible.

The change to the rules governing Conditions makes it possible for the PCs to spend Sympathy to affect the outcome. The will be 5, but let’s see how this scenario plays out. Part of the plan is to Prevail and thereby lower the Distance, making further interactions with the Dispossessed easier. Unfortunately, that means it needs to be at least Subtle if not Open, which does not play to Aelfgifu’s strengths. A success with Hidden would not shift the Distance, as no one would know that the Occupiers were involved.

So, Aelfgifu is using Eyes, because this is going to involve careful planning and consideration. It’s going to be Subtle – Openly is kind of the antithesis of spying and Hidden wouldn’t help to lower the Distance. She is going to do this in uniform to get the die for Authority, and because she knows how fraught relations with the Dispossessed are, she’s going to be Careful. Finally, she’s wagering Sympathy because she really needs the successes. She wagers 2 Sympathy, 1 to use Spy to shift the Subtle die to d8 (d4 would allow more re-rolls, but d8 has a greater chance of Success), and the other to shift her Elements die also to d8. That leaves her with a d4 and three d8. Her only chance of success is hitting maximum number and getting re-rolls.

Maybe Relationships can also be used for free re-rolls? I think that makes sense. Wagering 2 still leaves Aelfgifu with a Sympathy she can use to get a free re-roll. I don’t think the amount of Relationships are high enough to unbalance resolution, but let’s see.

With her d4, Aelfgifu rolls a 2. This is not looking good. For her shifted Approach d8 she gets a 2. Oh no. For her two other d8s, she gets a 7 and an 8. That allows one more d8, which is a 5. That’s three successes. This would allow a Negotiation. She only has 1 Sympathy held back, so that’s not enough re-rolls to get the job done.

I’ve run this scenario ten times without success. Hitting five Successes when outside one’s niche is going to be very, very rare. What if she were using Hidden? It wouldn’t help in the future, but out of interest I tried it. It’s 2d4 and 2d8, which honestly doesn’t look as good as 1d4 and 3d8. And my hunch was correct, because it didn’t work out.

What about sharing Relationship to allow for more re-rolls and shifts? There’s really no other method of “helping” or “aiding” another PC. The system is really designed for that. Since this is a group, sharing Relationship might be possible. Maybe at a cost of 2 to 1? This might seem like I am trying really hard to make this particular scene work, but it is more a consideration of the 5 Difficulty. It should be possible to Prevail against 5 – since that is what Distance is initially set at – but not easily. Aelfgifu actually did really well with her rolls, so there should be a resource-based method for helping out. Sharing Relationship seems like a good way for that.

The sharing will need to be logically explained – how the character is helping – and that needs to be part of the narrative for the scene.

Unfortunately, nobody has 2 Relationship. Combining everyone’s seems a bridge too far to me – why not just have group Relationships if that is the case? And the point of it is that players can decide how their character approaches the factions – where do they make contacts and connections? So I’m not going to have combined Relationship. Since no one has 2 Sympathy to share, this is left at a Negotiation.

We know there is a way Aelfgifu’s player can make this work, just not with the Dispossessed. So what about Beatris? She was left with only 1 Sympathy after the first Scene, but let’s say she’s coming at this fresh. She had 3 Sympathy, could she pull it off?

Beatris would have the advantage of being able to go Open for the d6 which she could then use her Good Cop Concept to shift to a d8. She’s going to use Heart as well, which fits her character, and shift it to a d8 with another Sympathy. She’s going in uniform for Authority and finally she is using her Persuasion for another d6, which she will use her last Sympathy to shift to a d8. She is now looking at 4d8 and with Aelfgifu’s 2 Sympathy, there’s a re-roll if necessary.

Out of ten attempts, none succeeded. That’s important. That tells me that a Difficulty of 5 is too high. It tells me that even 4 is pretty hard (three times out of ten), but 3 is attainable. Aelfgifu could have Prevailed with three, and Beatris could totally have done so without burning all her resources.

This test taught me that the mechanics work pretty well, that there needs to be a way to assist, that I am comfortable with sharing Relationships as the method this happens, and that Threat should begin no higher than 3.

So at the introduction of a campaign, the Threats need to be set at 3 Distance, 2 Disdain, and 1 Discord. That makes sense to me.

With this, Aelfgifu’s attempt would have succeeded, and the Distance would have lowered to 2 while Harmony would have increased to 6. It cost her, but she succeeded while playing only slightly outside of her niche.

Things are cooking now.

This post is one of a series describing the design of a prospective RPG called the Wall. You can find more posts here.

Okay, time for test number three. We didn’t actually provide an outcome for Test II. Let’s say that the rumours of Elite food hording has proved false, so the PCs decide it’s time to track down the Preacher who spouted these lies. Aelfgifu, the PC spy within the Occupiers, is eminently suited to that.

Our breakdown again is:
Episode: Food riots have begun in the Fifth Quarter, one of the middle class sections near the river. Order is threatened and the Company’s influence among the Elites is at stake.

Scene Goal: Find the Preacher

The players decide that Aelfgifu is going to use her contacts among the Dispossessed’s underworld to get information on this Preacher. This is a difficult way to go around it, but success will help to lower the Distance and make further interaction with the Dispossessed easier. Unfortunately, that means it needs to be at least Subtle if not Open, which does not play to Aelfgifu’s strengths. A success with Hidden would not shift the Distance, as no one would know that the Occupiers were involved.

Further, because Harmony is at 0, Aelgifu can’t wager Sympathy. There’s almost no way she can succeed without shifting a die. The players decide they will need another plan. Aelgifu has best relations with the Occupiers, so it’s time to see if any of her comrades at arms knows anything of this Preacher.

Aelfgifu is using Eyes, because this is going to involve careful planning and consideration. It’s going to be Subtle – Open is kind of the antithesis of spying and Hidden wouldn’t effect Discord should the PCs succeed. She is going to do this in uniform to get the die for Authority. Unseen really doesn’t work for this, so how about Careful? The PCs don’t want any warning to reach whomever is involved in this, so Aelgifu is going to be very careful with how she fashions her questions and inquiries. There’s no need to wager Respect, given that she only needs 1 Success to Prevail.

With her Eyes d4, Aelfgifu rolls a 2. That’s not a good start. Her Subtle d6 rolls a 4. That’s a Success. Her Authority d8 gets a 3, which doesn’t help, and her Careful d6 gets a 2. Only 1 Success. That’s all they need. Discord can’t drop any further. The Scene is a success, but there’s no mechanical changes.

The mechanics are working, but there’s something that’s got me thinking. We can talk about that next.

This post is one of a series describing the design of a prospective RPG called the Wall. You can find more posts here.

Here we are with the second test scenario. This example is useful as you can see how the rules evolve as roadblocks are hit or outcomes don’t make sense. There are character sheets at the end of this that are built using the new rules.

As mentioned last time, an Episode is basically a single adventure, set to be run in one or two sessions. It can be part of a larger campaign, but should have a beginning and an end.

Episode: Food riots have begun in the Fifth Quarter, one of the middle class sections near the river. Order is threatened and the Company’s influence among the Elites is at stake.

Each Scene within an Episode has a goal. The first Scene sets the stage and puts things in motion. The GM might have other Scenes prepared, but these will also grow organically through PC actions. This Scene is one that is directed by the PCs. After learning in the last scene that the latest riot was started by a preacher saying the Elites are hording food, the PCs have a discussion and decide that they want to find out if this is true. Since Adriss (PC2) was the main proponent, he’s the one that is leading this scene.

Scene Goal: Find out if the Elites really are hording food

Adriss is going to speak to the Master of the Docks, the head bureaucrat responsible for the city’s emergency food stores. He has 2 in Sympathy, so that is going to be the “difficulty” (Sympathy is the difficulty because the Elite do not respect an Occupier who has sympathy for the Dispossessed) – he’ll need 2 Successes to Prevail. Adriss isn’t going to mess around – he’s basically going in with accusations. That’s the Fist and Open. He’s in uniform, so since he’s doing this Open, he’ll get his Authority die as well. His Elements include “1000 Mile Stare,” which tends to freak people out, so he’ll get the d6 for that. He’s using his Bitter Veteran Concept to intimidate the Master of the Docks, and so he can wager 1 Influence (he’s dealing with the Elite) to shift his Element d6 to a d8.

He rolls a 5 on his Fist d8, a 2 on his Open d4, an 8 on his Authority d8, and a 3 on his Element d8. He gets another d8 because his Authority d8 rolled a maximum (rolling the max on a die provides another die of the same kind), and with that d8 he rolls a 5.

Adriss got three Successes, more than he needed to Prevail, but not enough for any kind of bonus. Since he Prevailed, the 1 Influence he wagered remains with Influence. However, he used Fist, so Distance is increased.

How does this work? He was dealing with Elites, so why does Distance increase? It is an abstract of the cultural distance from and fear of the locals for the Occupiers. But then shouldn’t the score that provides the relationship with the Elites also suffer? It seems counterintuitive that the use of force – physical or interpersonal – would increase an Occupier’s sympathy for the Dispossessed.

This is a problem with the use of these relationship mechanics. The abstract is that Fist is the easiest way to succeed but that it always carries a cost. It makes sense that the cost would be a further gulf between the Occupiers and the occupied, but there’s no single stat for that. Maybe there should be.

Right now, the city has three of its own stats: Peace, Order, and Harmony. Let’s try making the difficulty ratings part of the city’s stats. Let’s call these Distance, Disdain, and Discord. These will measure the difficulty of gaining the cooperation of the Dispossessed, the Elite, and the Occupiers. PCs will have Sympathy, Influence, and Respect, which will help in dealing with the Dispossessed, Elite, and Occupiers.

At the beginning of the game, Distance is 5, Disdain is 3, and Discord is 1. When one uses Fist, the difficulty for the group interacted with increases by 1, so in this example, Disdain would have increased by 1. When Fist is used Open, the Peace or Harmony (whichever is higher) is lowered by 1 as well.

Let’s take these new rules and try them out with Beatris’ previous scene. In that case – assuming it was the first Episode and Scene, so these were new characters – the difficulty would have been 5. She got 2 Successes, which was still within 1/3 of the difficulty, so it would still have been a Negotiation. Negotiation would not allow the PCs to lower the city’s Distance, so it would still be at 5.

Adriss’ scene, on the other hand, would now have a difficulty of 3. He would still Prevail. While Disdain should lower by 1 because of the PC Prevailed in the scene, he also used Fist, which increases it by 1, so Disdain remains at 3.

That seems to work. We’ll move forward with these. For these new stats – Sympathy, Influence, and Respect – at character creation, the player will have a score of 3, 2, and 1 to assign to these. Beatris’ scene probably would have been a failure as she would likely not have been willing to lose 2 out of her 3 Sympathy. Unless there was a way these could be gained? Or could they recycle at the end of an episode? That might be the best. It’s simple and we can look at changing that later if the rest of the mechanics prove sound.

Okay, so let’s say the city’s Peace, Order, and Harmony are all 1 at introduction. The use of Fist and Open disturbs either the Peace or the Harmony. Let’s go with Harmony, since Adris didn’t actually physically do anything. That means Harmony is now at 0 and until it is increased, the PCs can’t wager Sympathy, meaning that interactions with the Dispossessed are going to prove difficult.

 

This post is one of a series describing the design of a prospective RPG called the Wall. You can find more posts here.

This records my first test run with the Wall rules. This is basically a thought experiment, running through the rules to see if they work in a basic sense. I do this as an example of play, which helps me get a grip on how the rules interact before I actually bring it to a table.

As mentioned in the rules rundown, an Episode is basically a single adventure, set to be run in one or two sessions. It can be part of a larger campaign, but should have a beginning and an end. Each Episode indicates what is at stake, and while this is provided narratively, it has mechanical repercussions.

For the test sessions, we’re going with:
Food riots have begun in the Fifth Quarter, one of the middle class sections near the river. Order is threatened and the Company’s influence among the Elites is at stake.

So, at the end of this Episode, the PCs will either have improved or degraded the city’s Order and their Influence with the Elite.

Each Episode is broken into Scenes. For the first test, that Scene’s goal will be: Gain a basic knowledge of how the riot started.

The decision is to canvas the area in uniform and try to get answers. Here is the character sheet for PC1. We’re going to call her Beatris.

Beatris is leading this as she has the least Distance and the highest Sympathy. Her Distance is 3, meaning she needs three successes to prevail. This is Heart which is a d6 and Open, which for Beatris is d6. The player decides that Beatris is going to be Subtle about this, so that’s a d4. Authority provides a d8 as a free die when wearing ones uniform, but that also requires one to be acting Open or Subtle – Hidden is actually trying to avoid anyone knowing the Occupiers are involved so Authority doesn’t work with that. The player wants that free d8, so the PCs are acting in uniform.

Beatris has the Element of Persuasion so that gives her another d6. Since she can apply her Concept of Good Cop, she can wager Sympathy (dealing with Dispossessed) to shift one die up or down. She shifts her Heart d6 to a d4, wagering 1 Sympathy. That Sympathy is lost if she fails but she retains it if she Prevails.

Any 4 or above is a Success, so with higher dice, it’s easier to get a Success. However, rolling the max on a die (4 on a d4, 8 on a d8) allows another die of the same kind, which means if you are trying to hit a large number of Successes, it’s sometimes better to have a d4. Also, rolling a 1 with a die shifted by the use of Concept (as below) is a failure but allows another die of the same type, meaning that d4s can be really useful, especially when shifting dice.

She rolls a 2 on her Heart d4, a 1 on her Subtle d4 (not the one shifted by Concept, so not a re-roll), a 5 on her Element d6, and a 5 on her Authority d8. That is a failure, but it is a negotiable failure. When the PC attains at least 1/3 of the necessary Successes (rounded down) needed to Prevail, it’s a “Negotiation.” If Beatris both pays another Sympathy and adds some kind of narrative problem for her character, she can Prevail.

What happens to the Sympathy? She is dealing with the Dispossessed, so it goes to Distance. She had wagered one and then paid one, so her Sympathy drops 2 and her Distance increases to 5. This is dealing with Order, so she can drop Order by 1 and her Distance will only increase by 1.

What does it matter that Order drops? If Order drops to 0, PCs cannot wager Influence. If Harmony drops to 0, they cannot wager Sympathy, and if Peace drops to 0, they cannot wager Distance. If these are 4 or above, they provide a bonus d6 and if they are above 7, they provide a bonus d8 when dealing with a specific Faction: Order for the Elites, Harmony for the Dispossessed, and Peace for the Occupiers.

Beatris’ player says that now she owes an NPC a favour. Estarda who owns a coffee house, was the one who gave her the information. Estarda said that the riot started after a Preacher delivered a pretty extreme sermon about the evils of the Elites and claimed they were hording food.

This whole process takes place before the scene, and then the GM and players narrate the scene, adding details.

So far, so good. The rules seem to be okay. Next time, we’ll try another.